Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. The Vanns were a prolific family who reused many names, so later in life he was referred to as "Rich Joe." He was one of eight children born to his father's nine wives. De clothes wasn't no worry neither. Of course I hear about Abraham Lincoln and he was a great man, but I was told mostly by my children when dey come home from school about him. There'd be races and people would have things what they was sellin' like moccasins and beads. The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I aint had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. John Joseph had two wives named Agnes Weatherford, Wawli War-le Wah Li Mary Otterlifter (Cherokee) and nine children named Keziah, John Isaac, Joseph David Joe, Alcey Mary Ann, James Clement Clemens, Avery, Mary B . We had a smoke house full of hams and bacon. Everybody had a good time. He didn't tell us children much about the War, except he said one time that he was in the Battle of Honey Springs in 1863 down near Elk Creek south of Fort Gibson. They taken some of their slaves with them. After the war I married Paul Alexander, but I never took his name. Everybody cry, everybody'd pretty nearly die. After a bloody fracas in 1834, Colonel W. N. Bishop established his brother, Absolom Bishop, on the premises and Joseph Vann with his family was driven out to seek shelter over the state line in Tennessee. Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. A bunch of us who was part Indian and part colored, we got our bed clothes together some hams and a lot of coffee and flour and started to Mexico. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Robin Vann and Unknown 14 year old in 1809 Vann less. Her master was white, but he had married into de Nation and so she got a freedmen's allotment too. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. We told him bout de Pins coming for him and he just laughed. Dere was a sister named Patsy; she died at Wagoner, Oklahoma. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. Mammy went to a mean old man named Pepper Goodman and he took her off down de river, and pretty soon Mistress tell me she died cause she can't stand de rough treatment. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. He jest kept him and he was a good Negro after that. Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. I believe it is the same person.) The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. Smoeone call our names and everybody get a present. 502-524. He took us back to Texas right down near where I was born at Bellview. Marster never whipped no one. Couldn't nobody go there, less they turn the key. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. Everything was stripedy cause Mammy like to make it fancy. Wupsi. Betty Robertson's father worked aboard Joseph Vann's steamboat, Lucy Walker. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. All my children was from the first marriage: Thomas, Dora, Charley, Marie, Opal, William, Arthur, Margaret, Thadral and Hubbard. They rendezvoused with other slaves who had agreed to participate in the revolt, stole horses to ride to their freedom, then broke into a store to steal guns, ammunition, food, and supplies they needed for their planned escape to Mexicowhere slavery was illegal. Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobody ever lacked for nothing. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. She done his washing and knew the cuff of his sleeve. Old Master tell me I was borned in November 1852, at de old home place about five miles east of Webbers Falls, mebbe kind of northeast, not far from de east bank of de Illinois River. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. We went on a place in de Red River Bottoms close to Shawneetown and not far from de place where all de wagons crossed over to go into Texas. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. Son of James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) Crazy Chief Vann and Nancy (Go-sa-du-i-sga) Timberlake Joseph H. Vann was born in Spring Place, Georgia. People all a visitin'. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. Deutsche Bahn Regional. He was married, but that din't make no difference he courted her anyhow. Everything we had was made by my folks. All Indians lived around there, the real colored settlement was four mile from us, and I wasn't scared of them Indians for pappa always told me his master Henry Nave, was his own father; that make me part Indian and the reason my hair is long, straight and black like a horse mane. I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names. Historical records and family trees related to Joseph Vann Chief. Pedigree report of John Joseph Vann, son of Edward Ned Vann Sr and Mary Lewis Barnes (Ani'-Ga'tge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato), born in 1736 in Jonesboro, Washington Co., Tennessee. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. We went down to the river for baptizings. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. We stayed here till everything got fixed up, then we went back to Mexico. Some officers stayed in de house for a while and tore everything up or took it off. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and ole Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. We had home-made wooden beds wid rope springs, and de little ones slept on trundle beds dat was home made too. Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. 467-91. Discover the family tree of Joseph William Vann for free, and learn about their family history and their ancestry. Some niggers say my pappy kept hollering, Rum it to the bank! Lord no, he didn't. I went to see dem lots of times and they was always glad to see me. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. He was half Cherokee with Scots father and Cherokee mother, and became a powerful and very wealthy chief in the Cherokee nation, owning a large plantation and many slaves, in addition to other holdings. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. After the explosion someone found an arm up in a tree on the bank of the river. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robert sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph H Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robe James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) (James Wahli Vann Etc. Edit your search or learn more He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. , Nancy Vann, John Shepherd Vann, David Vann, Jane Elizabeth Vann, Sallie Blackburn Vore (born Vann), Joseph W. Vann, William Vann, Miner Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States of America, Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States, Cherokee () Principal Chiefs and Uka: Eastern, Western and Keetoowah, Chief Joseph Rich Joe Vann, Principal Chief, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster. 29 November 2015. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/black-genealogy/slave-narrative-of-b - Last updated on Aug 24th, 2012, VANN SLAVES REMEMBER 2003 By Herman McDaniel Murray County Museum. Oh the news traveled up and down the river. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. There was Mr. Jim Collins, and Mr. Bell, and Mr. Dave Franklin, and Mr. Jim Sutton and Mr. Blackburn that lived around close to us and dey all had slaves. When they wanted something put away they say, "Clarinda, come put this in the vault." Don't know where the other one lived. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. Its inception resulted from many trends in European society, culture, and diplomacy during the late 19th century. The participants in this near slave revolt received physical punishments, but none were killed. I've heard em tell of rich Joe Vann. They didn't go away, they stayed, but they tell us colored folks to go if we wanted to. You can take a bus from Monheim am Rhein to Cologne via Leverkusen Leverkusen Mitte Bf in around 1h 24m. In 1840 the town of Harrison was developed on an adjoining property, and the county seat of Hamilton County was moved south to the Tennessee River to this location. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to Old Maser Joe. My uncle belong to old Captain Joe nearly all his life. Lucinda Vann tells an unusual story of plantation life from the perspective of a house slave who was born with privileges. Old Master Joe had a mighty big farm and several families of Negroes, and he was a powerful rich man. When meal time come, someone ring that bell and all the slaves know its time to eat and stop their work. Half brother of James Fields; Lucy Hicks; Isabel Wolf; Delila Fields; Charles Timberlake and 8 others; Jesse Vann; Delilah Amelia McNair; Joseph Vann; James Vann; Sarah 'Sally' Nicholson (Vann); John Hon John Vann; Robert B. When the war come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. That was where all the food was kept. I never forget when they sold off some more negroes at de same time, too and put dem all in a pen for de trader to come and look at. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. Florence Smith was my first wife and Ida Vann the second. Lots of bad things have come to me, but the good Father, high up, He take care of me. about chief joseph vann family tree please comment if we missed anything here, please let us know. I wore loom cloth clothes, dyed in copperas what the old Negro women and the old Cherokee women made. At the time that the interviews were conducted, the Vanns had been gone from Georgia for more than 100 yearsconsequently none of the slaves the Vanns owned in Spring Place were still alive. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky and back. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. Sometimes she pull my hair. By and by I married Nancy Holdebrand what lived on Greenleaf Creek, bout four miles northwest of Gore. Pappa got the soldier fever from being in the War; no, I don't mean like the chills and fever, but just a fever to be in the army, I guess for he joined the regular U.S. Army after a while, serving five years in the 10th Cavalry at Fort Sill during the same time John Adair of Tahelquah and John Gallagher of Muskogee was in the army. Women came in satin dresses, all dressed up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. Although Joseph Vann's body was never found, slave Lucinda Vann revealed that one of his arms had been found, positively identified, and taken to Vann's home at Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, where it was preserved for many years. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. The slaves who worked in the big house was the first class. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. -ga Vann, Delilah Amelia Mcnair (born Vann), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Tacah To Kah Do Key, Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Georgia, Old Cherokee Nation East, United States, Chief James Vann, Ii, Nannie Vann (born Brown), Oct 26 1844 - Ohio, Indiana, United States, Chief "crazy" James Ti-ka-lo-hi Clement Vann, Nancy Ann Vann (born Timberlake Brown). In slavery time the Cherokee negroes do like anybody else when they is a death---jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. Nov 1773 Joseph Vann from SC received 500 acres in Wilkes County, Georgia listing a wife, three sons and four daughters ages 7-16. The grandparents were Joseph Vann, a Scottish trader who came from the Province of South Carolina, and Cherokee Mary Christiana (Wah-Li or Wa-wli Vann). Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. Explore historical records and family tree profiles about Joseph Vann Chief on MyHeritage, the world's family history network. In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. You know just what day you have to be back too. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. Pappy is buried in the church yard on Four Mile Branch. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasn't so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. He builds the large brick mansion house at Spring Place, Murray Country, Georgia, which stands today as a monument at its owner. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. Sometime Young Master Joe and the other boys give me a piece of money and say I worked for it, and I reckon I did for I have to cook five or six times a day. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. Born 11 February 1798 - Spring Place, Cherokee Nation-East, IT., GA. Deceased 23 October 1844 - Aboard the Lucy Walker,aged 46 years old Parents James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- My mother, grandmother, aunt Maria and cousin Clara, all worked in the big house. 61 (Spring, 1983). It is located at the intersection of U.S. Highway 76 and Georgia 225 in Murray County, on the outskirts of Chatsworth in northwest Georgia. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. Yes, my dear Lord yes. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder. A Scottish trader came to Cherokee Territory in 1755, married Wai-Li and became a licensed trader-interpreter for the Queen of England. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evening's and make wooden spoons out of maple. Then the preacher put you under water three times. McFadden, Marguerite, "The Saga of 'Rich Joe' Vann", Chronicles of Oklahoma, Vol. Someone rattled the bones. Then I had clean warm clothes and I had to keep them clean too! There was a bugler and someone called the dances. Master Joe was sure a good provider, and we always had plenty of corn pone, sow belly and greens, sweet potatoes, cowpeas and cane molasses. Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. Our clothes was home-made---cotton in the summer, mostly just a long-tailed shirt and no shoes, and wood goods in the winter. Pappys name was Kalet Vann, and mammys name was Sally. We never had no school in slavery and it was agin' the law for anybody to even show a negro de letters and figures, so no Cherokee slave could read. We had out time to go to bed and our time to get up in the morning. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. The command of the Army was shared by Doublehead and Watts. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. She had belonged to Joe Hildebrand and he was kin to old Steve Hildebrand dat owned de mill on Flint Creek up in de Going Snake District. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." Dere come six children; Charley, Alec, Laura, Harry Richard and Jeffy, who waS named after Jefferson Davis. Every morning the slaves would run to the commissary and get what they wanted for that day. The land was timbered and the oldest children clear the land, or start to do the work while Pappa go back to Tahlequah to get my sick mamma and the rest of the family. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. My husband didn't give me nothing. Wife belong to de church and all de children too, and I think all should look after saving their souls so as to drive de nail in, and den go about de earth spreading kindness and hoeing de row clean so as to clinch dat nail and make dem safe for Glory. There was music, fine music. The 1860 Census records for Oklahoma (the last Census of the slavery era), indicates that the Cherokees held 4,600 Negro slaves; the Chickasaws owned 975; the Choctaws owned, 2,344; the Creeks held 1,532; and the Seminoles reportedly owned 500. I dunno her other name. They'd clap their hands and holler. He was the father of Nancy Vann Mackey; and Delilah Amelia, wife of Oliver H. Perry Brewer (Brewer cemetery). I've seen em. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. A brother was owned by another Vann Family in Tahlequah. My parents are both dead now--seems like fifty, maybe sixty year ago. I sure did love her. Oh Lord, no. There was lots of preserves. He was a traveler, didn't stay home much. Records may include photos, original documents, family history, relatives, specific dates, locations . It wasn't my Master done dat. Some 3,500 interviews were conducted. My aunt done de carding and spinning and my mammy done de weaving and cutting and sewing , and my pappy could make cowhide shoes wid wooden pegs. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. I got a pass and went to see dem sometimes, and dey was both treated mighty fine. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. Joseph Vann is listed in the Cherokee census of 1835 as a resident of the Cherokee nation within the chartered limits of Hamilton County, Tennessee, his family consisting of fifteen persons. I don't remember old Mistress name. My mammy was a Cherokee slave, and talked it good. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant' stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like we'd been for our feed, an clothes. We put all the bed clothes on its back. Yes, Lord Yes. There'd be a hole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. This valuable property became a prize for the white man when the laws of Georgia were extended over the Cherokee Nation. My uncle Joe was de slave boss and he tell us what de Master say do. What you can expect from tree service professionals: Tree service companies offer a full range of tree care services. After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. He moved his family to this location and resided there two or three years, until he could establish himself in the west. Up at five o'clock and back in sometimes about de middle of de evening long before sundown, unless they was a crop to git in before it rain or something like dat. We was at dat place two years and made two little crops. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. I go to this house, you come to my house. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. He come from across the water when he was a little boy, and was grown when old Master Joseph Vann bought him, so he never did learn to talk much Cherokee. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. Train operators. 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